Description This lot is for two pistols, one starting pistol and one gas gun. The first is a Gas Gun made by J.W. Van Karner and has a three round capacity in .60 caliber. Wood grip plates. Aluminum frame and barrels. Fixed blade sight. The second is a German made starter pistol in 8mm. Checkered composite grip plates. Nickel or chrome finished metal frame and serrated slide. Fixed iron sights. NON-GUN. No FFL required and ships to buyers home. Condition: Good/Very good with light scratches, dings and finish wear/loss. The Starter Pistol has a non-rifled bore with light metal oxidation and a bar welded in the front of barrel. The Gas Gun has clean smooth bores. Sold AS-IS. Barrel Length: 2″, 3″ Serial: P3845, 111944 Manufacturer: GMBH J.W. Van Karner Caliber: 8mm .60 Caliber Model: S.M. 10 Gas Gun